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		<title>By: Helen Bain</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-10342</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forest &#38; Bird doesn't condone use of threats, regardless of how passionate people may feel about an issue.  It seems that both environmental supporters and kite boarders have been involved in some heated exchanges.  While concerns remain about threats to birdlife in this ecologically important area, clearly threats and the like are not going to help. I have emailed you further about this, hopefully we can have a more constructive discussion about this issue.  Helen Bain, Forest &#38; Bird (National office)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forest &amp; Bird doesn&#8217;t condone use of threats, regardless of how passionate people may feel about an issue.  It seems that both environmental supporters and kite boarders have been involved in some heated exchanges.  While concerns remain about threats to birdlife in this ecologically important area, clearly threats and the like are not going to help. I have emailed you further about this, hopefully we can have a more constructive discussion about this issue.  Helen Bain, Forest &amp; Bird (National office)</p>
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		<title>By: David Kay</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-10340</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though it is a young sport Kiteboarders have been living and riding in the Ruakaka area since 2000.  Over this time the number of riders has grown, but still is relatively small with 10 local riders and a similar number based in Whangarei that drive out when conditions are right.

Kiteboarding has a very low environmental impact; it uses very little equipment, doesn’t burn fuel and makes no noise.  Many of us choose this sport over the likes of wakeboarding or jet skiing for just these reasons.  We also have little interaction with other beach users, as we require around 12knots of wind to start riding and prefer 18knots.  Most beach users will know it is very unpleasant to fish, swim or kayak on any beach that has a stiff on-shore breeze blowing.

Ruakaka river mouth is a very special riding environment for kiteboarders, with the enclosed water way giving smooth water, the outer bar giving us clean waves all the while being open to the strong winds we enjoy.  This location is not just ‘some place to ride’ it is in fact a world class, best you can get type of location – not unlike Shipwreck bay in Ahipara is for surfers. 

However to Kiteboard at Ruakaka River mouth we require both a high tide and a moderate to strong Easterly wind. In any given year the total number days Mother Nature gives us with just these right conditions are around 25. On these 25 days we will average 3 hours of ridable time before the tide drops.  Given an average of 12 hours of daylight per day, 365 days in the year, kiteboarders can use this location less than 2% of the time. For the other 98% of the year we simply go to beaches better suited to other wind directions.  Usually the numbers of riders out at Ruakaka on any given E wind is 4-5, on weekends this sometimes rises to 10-12 but this is rare rather than the rule. 

As a group Ruakaka kiteboarders are well aware of the importance of the Ruakaka estuary as a wildlife refuge, to this end we have put in place a set of guidelines since 2005 to protect this area, these include:

- Stay off the sand dunes.
- Rig up and land kites as close to the waters edge as possible.
- Do not fly kites over the dunes or wildlife.
- Keep your kite at 45degrees out to sea when walking up the beach.
- Stay a safe distance from other beach users.

The locals also take a high level of responsibility to educate riders from other places who wish to use this area, along with educating other beach users of the care that should be taken.

Despite all of this we have been targeted and tagged by a tiny group of local environmentalists as a hazardous and destructive activity.  In the last three years kiteboarders using Ruakaka river mouth have had to endure being yelled at, subjected to verbal abuse, threatened with weapons (including scissors and fence posts), had equipment interfered with, had our way impeded, photos taken, videos taken, and most recently a young American traveller was assaulted on the beach by one of the woman opposed to us using this area.

This same area is also used by many thousands of people throughout the year – Fisherman, Swimmers, Kayakers, Sunbathers, Walkers, Bird Watchers, Horse Riders, Boaties, Jetskiers, Windsurfers, Surfers, Bodyboarders, 4x4 drivers, Motor cycle riders, Campers and even Drinkers.  The river mouth lies between the largest campground in Ruakaka and the only surf club – over the summer on ANY day many hundreds of people walk between the camp and the surf club via the dunes or foreshore of the south side of the River Mouth. 

There are also many other pressures on the wildlife in this area Cats, Dogs, Stouts, Rats, Hedgehogs, Possums, Storms, High tides, Rubbish, Pollution, Fires, Development, Erosion to name just a few. 

The kiteboarders of Ruakaka are working with the Department of Conservation to investigate and try and quantify any impact we may have on the wildlife in this area. As kiteboarders we believe any impact we have is certainly lower than many of the other activities and pressures, and is manageable within the guidelines we already have in place. 

We believe we are being unfairly harassed simply because those opposed to kiteboarding do not have an understanding of how kites work, consider us ‘young’, our kites are visible from a distance and we are a small group who are easy to target.  

All we ask for is some perspective on all the issues at Ruakaka River Mouth and where kiteboarding fits into that mix.  

David Kay
Ruakaka</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though it is a young sport Kiteboarders have been living and riding in the Ruakaka area since 2000.  Over this time the number of riders has grown, but still is relatively small with 10 local riders and a similar number based in Whangarei that drive out when conditions are right.</p>
<p>Kiteboarding has a very low environmental impact; it uses very little equipment, doesn’t burn fuel and makes no noise.  Many of us choose this sport over the likes of wakeboarding or jet skiing for just these reasons.  We also have little interaction with other beach users, as we require around 12knots of wind to start riding and prefer 18knots.  Most beach users will know it is very unpleasant to fish, swim or kayak on any beach that has a stiff on-shore breeze blowing.</p>
<p>Ruakaka river mouth is a very special riding environment for kiteboarders, with the enclosed water way giving smooth water, the outer bar giving us clean waves all the while being open to the strong winds we enjoy.  This location is not just ‘some place to ride’ it is in fact a world class, best you can get type of location – not unlike Shipwreck bay in Ahipara is for surfers. </p>
<p>However to Kiteboard at Ruakaka River mouth we require both a high tide and a moderate to strong Easterly wind. In any given year the total number days Mother Nature gives us with just these right conditions are around 25. On these 25 days we will average 3 hours of ridable time before the tide drops.  Given an average of 12 hours of daylight per day, 365 days in the year, kiteboarders can use this location less than 2% of the time. For the other 98% of the year we simply go to beaches better suited to other wind directions.  Usually the numbers of riders out at Ruakaka on any given E wind is 4-5, on weekends this sometimes rises to 10-12 but this is rare rather than the rule. </p>
<p>As a group Ruakaka kiteboarders are well aware of the importance of the Ruakaka estuary as a wildlife refuge, to this end we have put in place a set of guidelines since 2005 to protect this area, these include:</p>
<p>- Stay off the sand dunes.<br />
- Rig up and land kites as close to the waters edge as possible.<br />
- Do not fly kites over the dunes or wildlife.<br />
- Keep your kite at 45degrees out to sea when walking up the beach.<br />
- Stay a safe distance from other beach users.</p>
<p>The locals also take a high level of responsibility to educate riders from other places who wish to use this area, along with educating other beach users of the care that should be taken.</p>
<p>Despite all of this we have been targeted and tagged by a tiny group of local environmentalists as a hazardous and destructive activity.  In the last three years kiteboarders using Ruakaka river mouth have had to endure being yelled at, subjected to verbal abuse, threatened with weapons (including scissors and fence posts), had equipment interfered with, had our way impeded, photos taken, videos taken, and most recently a young American traveller was assaulted on the beach by one of the woman opposed to us using this area.</p>
<p>This same area is also used by many thousands of people throughout the year – Fisherman, Swimmers, Kayakers, Sunbathers, Walkers, Bird Watchers, Horse Riders, Boaties, Jetskiers, Windsurfers, Surfers, Bodyboarders, 4&#215;4 drivers, Motor cycle riders, Campers and even Drinkers.  The river mouth lies between the largest campground in Ruakaka and the only surf club – over the summer on ANY day many hundreds of people walk between the camp and the surf club via the dunes or foreshore of the south side of the River Mouth. </p>
<p>There are also many other pressures on the wildlife in this area Cats, Dogs, Stouts, Rats, Hedgehogs, Possums, Storms, High tides, Rubbish, Pollution, Fires, Development, Erosion to name just a few. </p>
<p>The kiteboarders of Ruakaka are working with the Department of Conservation to investigate and try and quantify any impact we may have on the wildlife in this area. As kiteboarders we believe any impact we have is certainly lower than many of the other activities and pressures, and is manageable within the guidelines we already have in place. </p>
<p>We believe we are being unfairly harassed simply because those opposed to kiteboarding do not have an understanding of how kites work, consider us ‘young’, our kites are visible from a distance and we are a small group who are easy to target.  </p>
<p>All we ask for is some perspective on all the issues at Ruakaka River Mouth and where kiteboarding fits into that mix.  </p>
<p>David Kay<br />
Ruakaka</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-10210</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm yes u probably r being naive, u only have 2 go 2 your nearest beach 2 c the sort of moronic behavior &#38; total disregard for the wellbeing of the environment &#38; wildlife 2 c that humans - or at least a lot of them - really don't care less, so thats what u r up against. Sorry 2 sound cynical but its true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm yes u probably r being naive, u only have 2 go 2 your nearest beach 2 c the sort of moronic behavior &amp; total disregard for the wellbeing of the environment &amp; wildlife 2 c that humans - or at least a lot of them - really don&#8217;t care less, so thats what u r up against. Sorry 2 sound cynical but its true.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggles</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9982</link>
		<dc:creator>Biggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if people were more aware they might change their behaviour.I like to hope that people aren't that horrible that they will deliberately harm wildlife. But maybe I am just being naive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if people were more aware they might change their behaviour.I like to hope that people aren&#8217;t that horrible that they will deliberately harm wildlife. But maybe I am just being naive?</p>
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		<title>By: Bev Woods</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9979</link>
		<dc:creator>Bev Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all these ideas. At the moment the local DC is proposing to make a safety zone excluding  all similar sports from Labour weekend to Easter weekend. The zone would include the godwits area - being discussed on April 22nd. Kite surfers reactions vary - one I talked to actually worked in a National Park and didn't see any ecological relationship between his work and his impact on the birds in the Refuge. Our group has spent at least 3 years defending breeding, resting and feeding places of the birds to no avail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all these ideas. At the moment the local DC is proposing to make a safety zone excluding  all similar sports from Labour weekend to Easter weekend. The zone would include the godwits area - being discussed on April 22nd. Kite surfers reactions vary - one I talked to actually worked in a National Park and didn&#8217;t see any ecological relationship between his work and his impact on the birds in the Refuge. Our group has spent at least 3 years defending breeding, resting and feeding places of the birds to no avail.</p>
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		<title>By: Jas</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9977</link>
		<dc:creator>Jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working with the kite surfing community is a great idea. It is quite possible that they are just not aware of the impact they are having on the godwits. It may seem obvious to those of us who are into conservation but to them they may just be another bird.
Approaching them in a positive way and with suggestions of reasonable alternatives that allow them to continue kite surfing without harming the godwits and other shorebirds would be a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working with the kite surfing community is a great idea. It is quite possible that they are just not aware of the impact they are having on the godwits. It may seem obvious to those of us who are into conservation but to them they may just be another bird.<br />
Approaching them in a positive way and with suggestions of reasonable alternatives that allow them to continue kite surfing without harming the godwits and other shorebirds would be a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan P</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9976</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're right - possibly the money could go into signage, that educates our kite-surfers about the godwits feeding habits/patterns. 

Breeding a respect for these wonderful aviators is the way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right - possibly the money could go into signage, that educates our kite-surfers about the godwits feeding habits/patterns. </p>
<p>Breeding a respect for these wonderful aviators is the way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: JamieS</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9975</link>
		<dc:creator>JamieS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried any sort of education programme or talked to the kite surfers, and tried to work out some solutions - like seasonal restrictions on use of the area etc.

Heres an idea for action: Try and find some kite surfing manufacturer to sponsor the godwits, they could use the godwits massive pilgrimage and beauty and toughness in their branding and through this work in kite surfing communities to develop practices that minimise impacts to birds, and even sponsor some research or other habitat based work.

The kite surfers I know aren't bad people. But like most outdoors people (including birders) they are individuals who make decisions on evidence and respond better to this freedom than to "blanket rules"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried any sort of education programme or talked to the kite surfers, and tried to work out some solutions - like seasonal restrictions on use of the area etc.</p>
<p>Heres an idea for action: Try and find some kite surfing manufacturer to sponsor the godwits, they could use the godwits massive pilgrimage and beauty and toughness in their branding and through this work in kite surfing communities to develop practices that minimise impacts to birds, and even sponsor some research or other habitat based work.</p>
<p>The kite surfers I know aren&#8217;t bad people. But like most outdoors people (including birders) they are individuals who make decisions on evidence and respond better to this freedom than to &#8220;blanket rules&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Spots McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9872</link>
		<dc:creator>Spots McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe shoot the kite surfers out of the sky? 
Or just be respectful of our feathered friends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe shoot the kite surfers out of the sky?<br />
Or just be respectful of our feathered friends!</p>
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		<title>By: Skylark</title>
		<link>http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-weighty-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-9870</link>
		<dc:creator>Skylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We need action and we need it now"? WHat's that supposed to mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need action and we need it now&#8221;? WHat&#8217;s that supposed to mean?</p>
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