Comments on: A Knock Out http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/ Weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:43:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Anne http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-61136 Anne Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:27:19 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-61136 Will and Warren, there's an interesting thread on the Green Room on this website about How To re Pest Controls from people who do pest trapping, which might help answer your questions or you could ask if anyone's trialled these traps. http://forum.forestandbird.org.nz/topic/pest-control-how-to-do-it Will and Warren, there’s an interesting thread on the Green Room on this website about How To re Pest Controls from people who do pest trapping, which might help answer your questions or you could ask if anyone’s trialled these traps. http://forum.forestandbird.org.nz/topic/pest-control-how-to-do-it

]]> By: warren agnew http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-61035 warren agnew Fri, 04 Feb 2011 23:04:53 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-61035 There doesn't seem to be any protection for children. Do animals actually enter the trap? There are industry comments following trials that they do not. . There doesn’t seem to be any protection for children.
Do animals actually enter the trap? There are industry comments following trials that they do not.
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]]> By: Will http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-51732 Will Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:02:31 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-51732 This looks like it could really help with infestations! As for the counter issue, could you not just attach a basic clicker to the piston, so that everytime it fires it counts one? Or am I missing something? This might be a stupid question, but could you not use something like a net to catch them? Lure them all into one place and shoot it at them? I saw a video of something similar done with pigeons (it sounds absurd, but check the video and you'll see what I mean: it's actually surprisingly effective as far as the birds are concerned) http://www.pigeonsandracingpigeons.com It's somewhere on there! This looks like it could really help with infestations! As for the counter issue, could you not just attach a basic clicker to the piston, so that everytime it fires it counts one? Or am I missing something?

This might be a stupid question, but could you not use something like a net to catch them? Lure them all into one place and shoot it at them? I saw a video of something similar done with pigeons (it sounds absurd, but check the video and you’ll see what I mean: it’s actually surprisingly effective as far as the birds are concerned)

http://www.pigeonsandracingpigeons.com

It’s somewhere on there!

]]> By: robbie http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-39793 robbie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:18:32 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-39793 It's a real encouragement seeing the dead animal at the foot of a trap but the nature doesn't allow it to last for long - the other morning while checking a trap there was a happy ruru munching the rat at the trap! The number of times the trap sets off was developed with two primary drivers, the number of current checks we undertake for successful predator control and the home range of the target species. So on average, most projects visit traps once a month (higher kills in summer = more checks) but rarely are the same traps full each check . This of course is different in each forest type, checking labour available and geography. Rats tend to have a density of approx. 9-12 per hectare (Landcare. 2008-09) and home ranges relatively similar to most trap networks. The affect of having a trap like this, we hope, is that the resident population is exposed to a trap that's ready to kill all the time - rather than however often we can get round them. Perhaps the initial bottle will be run down in less than a year but as we get on top of their breeding rate, this should become less and less. Goodnature is developing a counter for the traps, long life baits and a possum trap - but these things take a little time... we hope to have it as soon as possible!! Its great to hear what works and we rely on the doers to make these things better so thanks for your the feedback! THANKS, Robbie. It’s a real encouragement seeing the dead animal at the foot of a trap but the nature doesn’t allow it to last for long - the other morning while checking a trap there was a happy ruru munching the rat at the trap!

The number of times the trap sets off was developed with two primary drivers, the number of current checks we undertake for successful predator control and the home range of the target species. So on average, most projects visit traps once a month (higher kills in summer = more checks) but rarely are the same traps full each check . This of course is different in each forest type, checking labour available and geography. Rats tend to have a density of approx. 9-12 per hectare (Landcare. 2008-09) and home ranges relatively similar to most trap networks. The affect of having a trap like this, we hope, is that the resident population is exposed to a trap that’s ready to kill all the time - rather than however often we can get round them. Perhaps the initial bottle will be run down in less than a year but as we get on top of their breeding rate, this should become less and less.

Goodnature is developing a counter for the traps, long life baits and a possum trap - but these things take a little time… we hope to have it as soon as possible!!

Its great to hear what works and we rely on the doers to make these things better so thanks for your the feedback!

THANKS, Robbie.

]]> By: Helen http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-39741 Helen Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:25:51 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-39741 oh, and another thing - they are currently working on a similar device for possums. oh, and another thing - they are currently working on a similar device for possums.

]]> By: Helen http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-39740 Helen Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:25:00 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-39740 I have seen these traps in action and they certainly do work! One problem tho' is that as someone who is involved in catching predators as a volunteer it seems to be an essential part of volunteers' enthusiasm to know how many of the little beggars are being despatched - and as yet this can't be done with this device.... or at least not without a substantial increase in the cost. One of the traps advantages is however the fact that they can be set and left to presumably get on with the job - could this lead to a tendency to miss "catching" opporunities if the canisters are not regularly changed? I have seen these traps in action and they certainly do work! One problem tho’ is that as someone who is involved in catching predators as a volunteer it seems to be an essential part of volunteers’ enthusiasm to know how many of the little beggars are being despatched - and as yet this can’t be done with this device…. or at least not without a substantial increase in the cost.
One of the traps advantages is however the fact that they can be set and left to presumably get on with the job - could this lead to a tendency to miss “catching” opporunities if the canisters are not regularly changed?

]]> By: Mandy http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-39386 Mandy Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:09:22 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-39386 Here's the link to their site - http://www.goodnature.co.nz/ Here’s the link to their site - http://www.goodnature.co.nz/

]]> By: JamieS http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-39324 JamieS Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:05:29 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-39324 Great example of innovation, lets just hope it proves itself in the field. It will be real interesting to start to read peoples experiences with these traps when they have been given a decent go. Great example of innovation, lets just hope it proves itself in the field. It will be real interesting to start to read peoples experiences with these traps when they have been given a decent go.

]]> By: CeeJay http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/a-knock-out/comment-page-1/#comment-39322 CeeJay Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:48:38 +0000 http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/?p=1239#comment-39322 Where can you buy these? I am involved in quite a large pest control project close to an urban area and these traps (providing they work) would make life a lot easier (and cheaper for us. Where can you buy these?

I am involved in quite a large pest control project close to an urban area and these traps (providing they work) would make life a lot easier (and cheaper for us.

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